thread I have a chap who cannot write in English
Your/you're, there/their/they're, effect/affect etc.

He needs to learn, because he writes documents, and he accepts that he has missed out on learning this and asked for tuition.

Anyone know of any lesson plans which cover all the common mistakes (advice/advise, practise/practice etc) rather than my having to make one?
permalink The confusions section of this is good
http://www.gcse.com/en...
permalink Yeah, I looked at that.
I might have to make something up.

Our training dept have nothing - it's an unusual request in a media agency.
permalink yes
tell him tell him tell him to post on the pedantic internet place, I dunno, the guardian or something.
sorry, this crap is making me scatty
permalink That there is
not proper words.
permalink Look at the English as a Foreign language stuff (Tefl).
Seriously, thats one of the things they focus on.
permalink I am trying to find their lesson plans now.
I was going to write that I am trying to find they're lesson plans now, but I couldn't do it.
permalink : )


permalink fire him
for being a retard
permalink No.
He's fat and cuddly.
permalink tie him up
and bugger him with an umbrella
permalink Hiring someone to write documents
who lacks basic English seems a trifle daft
permalink We hired a journalist from the FT to do some stuff here
His grasp of English was execrable
permalink thats what subs are for
*looks round for Dave to start moaning about journos*
permalink His job is technical
but he writes stuff up.
permalink I, without fail
get affect/effect wrong every single time and I'm past the point attempting to rectify the situation.
permalink I sometimes make that mistake
I don't make any of the other mistakes but I wrote a document recently where I got the words peek and peak muddled up. It would have been OK if the documents wasn't about me peaking at peeks, or was it the other way around?

I think I have a problem with remembering binary logic i.e. where one instance of a word means on thing and the other means another.

permalink i read a good one about that.
that i find usefull.

effect is a noun
affect is a verb.

or is it the other way round?
permalink ...
Affect is a verb, although very rarely it can be used as a noun. Effect can be a verb or a noun.

Effect (noun): a thing that has happened.
"Seeing live worms in his dinner has such an effect on Brian!"
Effect (verb): to bring about change.
"We will effect changes to the school uniform from next term."

Affect (verb): to produce an effect on.
"Rachael shaving her head didn't affect the way Gabriel felt about her."
permalink Racheal is a dyke ?
...
permalink todger dodger
that is to say a woman with very comfortable shoes
permalink a woman on a quest to find the furry grail
permalink a clam slammer
permalink Placing the effect pedals in a different order
can affect the effect of the effects
permalink It all becomes clear now.
permalink so rule of thumb
effect is a noun except when you are talking like a twat.

permalink effect is a verb when you are talking like a twat
90% of the time you can use a better verb like "make"

"We will implement changes to the school uniform from next term."
"We will make changes to the school uniform from next term."
"We will change the school uniform from next term."
etc...
permalink yeah that's what i meant
permalink I basically just remember that the only time effect is a verb
is when you effect a change. And the only time I've seen it in use is in tenancy contracts, the first time I saw it I had to ring my dad and check it meant what I thought, and as he's a solicitor he thought I was weird for never having seen it used like that before.

So for me it's easy to remember as my dad thought I was an idiot ;)
permalink I hate the word 'demise'
used in property contracts.

It makes me think I am going to die.
permalink curtelidge is better
but I thin a demise is within a building.
permalink The "landlord's demise" is typically internal common parts, right?
Whereas curtiledge (sp?) is the area of land that can be reasonably said to be occupied by a building (i.e. house, driveway and garden). Curtillage (i think this is the correct spelling) is not necessarily legal ownership, and has a different meaning in planning law than elsewhere I think.
permalink I think your right
I just like curtillage as it sounds like cartilidge
permalink EXACTLY.
As I said, I'm passed caring if I get it wrong.
permalink Pfffft!
Sausage casserole, Sloggis, Bully For You by TRB:- http://www.youtube.com...
permalink you can affect an effect
permalink Me too.
I was having a very similar conversation in the pub last night.

English is a frustrating language.
permalink Crikey!
It's the bloke dressed as a girl in the new Lady Gaga video!

What are YOU doing here?
permalink That reference passes me by entirely.
Damn you popular culture!

I'm here because I have the day off work, and I'm avoiding doing my Open University work.
permalink Yay for procrastination!
Amateur crastination is toss.
permalink I like the term procrastibation
Sneaking off for a manage a une when you should be working
permalink I'm also waiting for my £25 laser printer to be delivered
and then I'll waste some time setting that up wirelessly on my network.

permalink Woohoo, it has arrived.
permalink I got a lovely little Samsung laser printer
for about £40 a few years ago that works a charm, only problem is that Samsung doesn't do OS X drivers and I have to bodge it with a similar model Gutenprint driver.

I rarely print though so I mainly got it as cartridges on my inkjets were always drying out but it's still handy to keep a printer around.
permalink This is an HP Laserjet 2200dn
and I bought it for similar reasons, plus it has a duplex unit, which is handy.

I'd given up on keeping an inkjet printer running given how infrequently I print.